[phenixbb] Stalled refinement
Paul Adams
pdadams at lbl.gov
Thu Apr 17 18:21:33 PDT 2014
Given the resolution you might want to try auto(re)building or morphing to see if there are any unexpected structural changes which explain the high R-factor.
On Apr 17, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Yarrow Madrona <amadrona at UCI.EDU> wrote:
> There is no significant peaks for translational NCS. I also didn't see anything in the patterson map.
>
> However, the Multivariate Z score L-test gives 6.218. Also the observed Centric reflections are more intense than they should be but I don't suspect twinning in a monoclinic space group.
>
> -Yarrow
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>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Paul Adams <pdadams at lbl.gov> wrote:
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> What does triage say about translation NCS?
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>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Yarrow Madrona <amadrona at uci.edu> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I using the latest stable build of phenx.refine (1.8.4) I recently collected data, processed and obtained an MR solution using phaser. I am stuck trying to refine with an Rfree sitting at 40%
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> I really want to know if the high Rfree is due to poor data quality or if non-crystallographic symmetry involving a near perfect two fold rotation between the two molecules in the ASU could somehow impede refinement. Stats and other information is below. Thank you for any help you can give.
>
> -Yarrow
>
>
> Visually, the quality of the data is marginal at best (streaky/ice rings in many frames) despite good processing stats from XDS. Processing with mosflm or HKL2000 managed to index but failed pretty bad in integration and scaling.
>
> Phaser gave high TFZ scores for 2 molecules in the asu (see below).
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> Density for a cholesterol like ligand shows up even though not present in the search model.
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> MolRep Self rotation shows rotational symmetry.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2zsajl5o091k50r/CYP142A2-032814_21_rf%20copy.pdf
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> The 2 molecules in the ASU are related by almost a 2 fold rotation:
>
> Rotation matrix for chain A to chain B:
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> new_ncs_group
> rota_matrix 1.0000 0.0000 0.0000
> rota_matrix 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000
> rota_matrix 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
> tran_orth 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
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> center_orth 15.2016 0.5245 33.7070
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> rota_matrix -0.9860 -0.1636 -0.0309
> rota_matrix -0.1659 0.9511 0.2605
> rota_matrix -0.0132 0.2620 -0.9650
> tran_orth 34.3310 -24.0033 107.0457
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> center_orth 15.7607 7.2426 77.7512
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> RMSD, B onto A = 0.0007 after phaser
> RMSD, B onto A = 0.347 after one round of refinement in phenix
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>
> Refinement using aniostropically corrected data (ucla web server: Services.mbi.ucla.edu/anisoscale) did not improve the Rfree in refinement.
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>
> Statistics are listed below:
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> UNIT CELL: 51.487 88.923 89.592 90 97.15 90 P21
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> RESOLUTION NUMBER OF REFLECTIONS COMPLETENESS R-FACTOR R-FACTOR COMPARED I/SIGMA R-meas CC(1/2) Anomal SigAno Nano
> LIMIT OBSERVED UNIQUE POSSIBLE OF DATA observed expected Corr
>
> 5.99 8280 1927 2087 92.3% 3.1% 3.3% 8246 35.09 3.5% 99.8* 20* 0.909 1296
> 4.30 14606 3401 3487 97.5% 3.3% 3.5% 14580 33.37 3.8% 99.9* 11* 0.843 2273
> 3.53 17961 4244 4445 95.5% 3.8% 3.9% 17944 31.11 4.4% 99.8* -2 0.789 2721
> 3.06 21954 5068 5221 97.1% 4.9% 5.1% 21933 24.81 5.6% 99.7* -2 0.780 3455
> 2.74 25741 5830 5933 98.3% 7.6% 7.6% 25713 18.88 8.6% 99.5* -2 0.782 4165
> 2.51 27859 6311 6483 97.3% 10.8% 10.8% 27824 14.06 12.3% 99.1* -2 0.774 4385
> 2.32 31336 6979 7084 98.5% 14.9% 15.3% 31296 10.49 16.8% 98.5* -4 0.748 5095
> 2.17 32396 7347 7567 97.1% 22.3% 22.7% 32341 7.46 25.4% 97.3* -7 0.728 5055
> 2.05 32254 7339 8047 91.2% 33.1% 33.5% 32075 5.06 37.5% 94.8* -6 0.724 5155
> total 212387 48446 50354 96.2% 7.8% 7.9% 211952 16.57 8.8% 99.7* -3 0.768 33600
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> Processing with mosflm or HKL2000 managed to index but failed pretty bad in integration and scaling.
>
>
> Phaser:
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> SOLU SET RFZ=27.5 TFZ=24.2 PAK=0 LLG=1711 RF++ TFZ=64.6 PAK=0 LLG=3610 LLG=4865
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Division Deputy for Biosciences, Advanced Light Source, Lawrence Berkeley Lab
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Vice President for Technology, the Joint BioEnergy Institute
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