[phenixbb] what about heavy atom as model for MR

[zhaoy]

Thank you very much.  I will try as you said. 

The P2221 dataset's qulity are not very well. The points from diffraction image
are not sharp. Besides, native dataset is 2.6A, setmet anomalous datasets is
only 4A. So I have not obtained the solution with p2221datasets.
There is only one molecular per AUS at p4322. So, from the initial map, I can
confirm the heavy atom sites from the same molecular.

Maybe I have a general idea about the method you said. But I still puzzled
which F difference should I use, isomorphous or anomalous differences?

Thanks!
--

Yan Zhao, M.Phil.
National Laboratory of Protein Sciences 
Institute of Biophysics 
Chinese Academy of Sciences 
15 Datun Rd.
Beijing, 100101 
China 

Terwilliger, Thomas C 写:
I'm not sure if there is a tool that will create the file you want for this. 
You could however just write a little script that reads in a .sca file and
calculates F from I, subtract F+ - F- to get Dano, square that, write out Dano**
2 and sigma(Dano**2) as another .sca file.  Then you could use this as input to
molecular replacement with your sites from the P4322 dataset.  


There is an important caveat to this approach however:  your sites from the
P4322 have to be all part of the same molecule, and this might or might not
happen automatically.  If some sites are from one molecule and others from
another molecule, then in the other crystal form their relationship won't be
correct.  If there is only one molecule in the au then this might or might not
be a big problem. If there are more than one it is very likely to be a big
problem.   This would apply to the density search that you carried out as well.
 If your density is good enough to see where the molecule is, you might be able
to figure out which of the symmetry-related sites to include in your MR search.


Nevertheless as this is easy it seems like a fine thing to do.  However I am
wondering if it will work because your 2.6 A semet anomalous dataset did not
yield a solution by itself, which is a little surprising...  Also of course if
your P4322 solution is not actually right or even just not close enough it
would not work.


-Tom T





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Hi everyone,

The heavy atoms(Se-Met) were located at P4322 space group(4A). But the initial
density map is so bad that I can not build the initial model. 

Meanwhile, I have another two datasets, native(2.6A) and  se-met anomalous
dataset with space group P2221. But these two datasets have no solution. I have
tried the initial map from sp P4322 as a model to do molecular  replacement.
But no MR solution. 

So, I want to know how can I use the heavy atom as model to do MR with
isomorphous or anomalous differences?

Thanks!

--

Yan Zhao, M.Phil.
National Laboratory of Protein Sciences 
Institute of Biophysics 
Chinese Academy of Sciences 
15 Datun Rd.
Beijing, 100101 
China 
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