[phenixbb] NCS problem

Pavel Afonine pafonine at lbl.gov
Tue Apr 22 14:13:00 PDT 2008


I agree.

At least I would try both: with and without NCS, carefully inspect the 
results and follow whatever works better.

Pavel.


On 4/22/2008 2:05 PM, Francis E Reyes wrote:
> Not an answer but another question:
>
> What reason would you be keeping NCS with a moderately complete model  
> at 1.7A?
>
> I would guess that keeping NCS restraints at such a high resolution  
> and completeness would count against you, if not the solvent exposed  
> side chains having different conformations among the molecules in the  
> asu then it would be different solvent configurations around each  
> molecule in the asu.
>
> Or maybe you have a super symmetric assembly, but even then in a case  
> where I have three molecules in the ASU, adding NCS seemed to hurt  
> refinement statistics when I had most (90% or better) residues built.
>
>
>
> Curious.
>
> FR
>
> On Apr 22, 2008, at 7:42 AM, Bobby Huether wrote:
>
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> My structure contains 2 protein molecules in the asymmetric unit,  
>> and they
>> are related by 2-fold rotational NCS to form a dimer. The   
>> refinement is
>> nearing completion (1.7 A) and the solvent molecules are now being  
>> included.
>> A blob of density has been tentatively identified as being occupied by
>> glycerol, which was present as the cryo-protectant. The issue is  
>> that this
>> blob of density lies on the 2-fold NCS rotation axis, and so we need  
>> to use
>> 2 glycerol molecules within this density, each at 0.5 occupancy, to  
>> conform
>> to the NCS symmetry. This blob of density lies in a surface pocket  
>> formed by
>> residues from both NCS-related proteins.
>>
>> When we build in the 2 glycerol molecules and then use  
>> phenix.refine, the
>> two glycerols are pushed out of density. Presumably this is because
>> phenix.refine is interpreting this situation as two glycerol molecules
>> sitting on top of on another rather than interpreting it as being a  
>> model
>> for a disordered ligand.
>>
>> Can phenix.refine handle this situation?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert
>>
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