[phenixbb] NCS weighting

Jianghai Zhu jzhu at cbr.med.harvard.edu
Tue Mar 27 14:48:14 PDT 2007


Hi Tom,

I have similar experiences with the ncs position restraints.  I would  
rather break the ncs to small groups than use loose restraints.   
However, I sometimes found there are big differences between the B  
factors of ncs related groups.  So I tend to use a loose restraints  
on B factors, but that may not be the general case.

Jianghai

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On Mar 27, 2007, at 5:13 PM, Tom Terwilliger wrote:

> Hi Jianghai,
>
> Pavel and I have spent a lot of time on this with a systematic study
> of NCS in refinement, without reaching a final answer, but with some
> observations. The bottom line:  for most applications tight ncs works
> pretty well.  It is very difficult to define the best NCS weighting,
> and there are not that many cases where loose restraints (e.g., 0.5
> A  of 1.0 A  instead of 0.05 A) do that much good.  It is also not so
> clear that the NCS restraints are generally making a very positive
> difference (in free R).
>
> Experiences from yourself and others would be useful to hear!
>
> -Tom T
>
> At 02:38 PM 3/27/2007, Jianghai Zhu wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am wondering how the NCS weighting in phenix.refine works.  I
>> guess the default values (coordinate_sigma = 0.05, b_factor_weight =
>> 10) are pretty tight.  What kind values would be appropriate for
>> medium and loose NCS?
>>
>> Jianghai
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>> Department of Pathology
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>> Fx: 618-278-3232
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